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October 11, 2018, 12:33:09 PM
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....  I'm very interested in BADecker's view on this as I feel he could be somewhat genuine.

Well your buddy with the turkey leg and funny hat that you like to brown nose
apparently wants him to ...quote...“just fuck off and die already”....

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October 11, 2018, 12:34:31 PM
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Lets look at some facts:  
http://i.imgur.com/jvlcr8j.jpg
(A small distortion, as most Mercator maps. If ratio is not 2:1 its distorted, but for timezone it does not matter)


Better the real deal
24h day in flat earth land. Sun rising east Möbius strip moving right to left.

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October 11, 2018, 02:35:25 PM
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Engineers don't calculate for Earth's curve ever because it doesn't exist. Go ask a railroad engineer about it, ask him why he never makes allowances for Earth's curvature? I'm not the one living in a fantasy world.

Why don't engineers generally need to calculate for the curvature of the earth? Because the curvature is on such a vast scale that it is unnecessary to take it into account. It appears not to exist. If the earth were a mere 100 miles in diameter, they would have to take it into account.

Engineers calculate for flat and straight. They do not calculate for something like a horizon curving up.

Make up your mind. Either the engineering calculation that works is wrong, or flat-earth curving up is wrong. The two sciences don't mix.

Formulate a complete FE science that works, stop combing it with standard science, and go back to school.

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October 11, 2018, 02:40:35 PM
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^^^ Notice he's careful to never post any evidence that might be debunked, just hit & run insults. What a massive faggot.

^^^ Notice he's careful to always post evidence that can easily be debunked... blah, blah, blah.

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October 11, 2018, 03:08:14 PM
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NASA is going to pump Yellowstone full of water. They may not have our best interests in mind, in-fact I know they don't.

"Volcanic winter is a state where the lower atmosphere gets filled with ash and it effectively plunges the entire planet in shade, cooling down the Earth."

"... By drilling into the supervolcano to a depth of about 10 km, water can be forced into it at high pressures ...", "... it would cost NASA about $3.46 billion ..."

Source: IBT
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I think they're going to use directed energy weapons to trigger an eruption, I believe they used the same energy buildup steam explosion trick (same effect as a microwaved exploding cup of water) on Mt. St. Helens to trigger that eruption. They destroyed evidence of a Titans remains and falsified evidence of volcanic geological activity.

The time for mass deception on Earth is clearly coming to an end and they know it; the countdown clock for doomsday may have started.
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October 11, 2018, 03:24:00 PM
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Engineers don't calculate for Earth's curve ever because it doesn't exist. Go ask a railroad engineer about it, ask him why he never makes allowances for Earth's curvature? I'm not the one living in a fantasy world.

Why don't engineers generally need to calculate for the curvature of the earth? Because the curvature is on such a vast scale that it is unnecessary to take it into account. It appears not to exist. If the earth were a mere 100 miles in diameter, they would have to take it into account.

Engineers calculate for flat and straight. They do not calculate for something like a horizon curving up.

Make up your mind. Either the engineering calculation that works is wrong, or flat-earth curving up is wrong. The two sciences don't mix.

Formulate a complete FE science that works, stop combing it with standard science, and go back to school.

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What, did the liqueur store run out of Everclear? The claim is 8" per mile squared and you say a railroad engineer can just ignore that?
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October 11, 2018, 03:49:53 PM
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Another take on the Palmer station summers day as the conveyor escalator moves through the day.  Noon is at "highest" part for "southern" part on the crazy steep roller coaster journey.



lets remember 1000% flatness into eternity
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jS-akcip240&feature=youtu.be

There is nothing more for now so i am done for a week or two.


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October 11, 2018, 04:05:32 PM
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Another take on the Palmer station summers day as the conveyor escalator moves through the day.  Noon is at "highest" part for "southern" part on the crazy steep roller coaster journey.



lets remember 1000% flatness into eternity
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jS-akcip240&feature=youtu.be

There is nothing more for now so i am done for a week or two.



Dude, even notbatman said your posts are cringe, doesn't that tell you anything?



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October 11, 2018, 04:12:07 PM
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Research Mt. St. Helens then ask yourself,



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October 11, 2018, 04:25:14 PM
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Engineers don't calculate for Earth's curve ever because it doesn't exist. Go ask a railroad engineer about it, ask him why he never makes allowances for Earth's curvature? I'm not the one living in a fantasy world.

Why don't engineers generally need to calculate for the curvature of the earth? Because the curvature is on such a vast scale that it is unnecessary to take it into account. It appears not to exist. If the earth were a mere 100 miles in diameter, they would have to take it into account.

Engineers calculate for flat and straight. They do not calculate for something like a horizon curving up.

Make up your mind. Either the engineering calculation that works is wrong, or flat-earth curving up is wrong. The two sciences don't mix.

Formulate a complete FE science that works, stop combing it with standard science, and go back to school.

Cool

What, did the liqueur store run out of Everclear? The claim is 8" per mile squared and you say a railroad engineer can just ignore that?

This is engineer talk that doesn't reflect true math. Also, it is a rule of thumb. Consider:
It seems to be the only math which many flat-Earthers are willing to consider accurate. The Earth, they say, supposedly curves away at a rate of eight inches times the distance in miles squared. Which is true. Kind of. But not really.

The figure, which they say comes from NASA, or "science," actually comes from a very different source. Flat-Earthers, no matter where they got it themselves, owe it to none other than Samuel Birley Rowbotham, author of Zetetic Astronomy. He got it from the Encyclopedia Brittanica, where it is cited under the heading "Leveling." You'll find his lengthy quote (I doubt that he got permission to use it, by the way) starting on page 8 of the 1865 edition of his book.

The problem is that this is in the context of civil engineering, not mathematics, and it's just a rule of thumb employed by plane surveyors to compensate for the drop in a target of the same height as the surveyor's transit. It builds up inaccuracy as the distance increases for two reasons, the first being that it is not exact, and the second being that it is not based on the formula for a circle. It actually plots out to be a parabola.

But, you can calculate it out yourself, easily, using trig or calculus. Or are you going to say that math is off, so that you can't use trig or calc in this?

However, if the drop is 8 inches per mile, this means less than 3 thousandths of an inch bend in a 15-foot railroad rail. You couldn't even notice this, so who who cares? Certainly not railroad engineers (or the conductors, for that matter Cheesy). Rails expand and contract way more than this with seasonal temperature changes.

But if you are using 8 inches squared, you are using 64 inches, or 8 times the, above, 3 thousandths of an inch. Then the amount would be barely over 2 hundredths of an inch. Again, this is less than climate change contractions and expansions, and less than a 15-foot rail bends because of anomalies in railroad track roadbed.

In other words, railroad engineers have to take into account way more for hills and valleys. So, why would they want to even consider the curvature of the earth, which is automatically figured into the way the metal bends, naturally, because of the size of the earth, and the tiny amount of drop in curvature?

Keep on digging yourself into a hole that you can't get out of.

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October 11, 2018, 04:37:40 PM
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^^^ Notice he's careful to never post any evidence that might be debunked, just hit & run insults. What a massive faggot.

^^^ Notice he's careful to always post evidence that can easily be debunked... blah, blah, blah.

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Right I have not see one shred of proof from any of these globers.  Just more and more bullshit.  These guys don't even put up a challenge.  At least the youtube globers are intelligent enough to add a bit of sophistry to the argument to make things interesting.  The funny thing about these BCT globers is they don't even understand their own science.  It's good to have 600 pages of them making complete asses of themselves helping your cause.  

These dumb fucks still think they see the giant water curve 3 miles off at sea LEVEL.  Doesn't even phase them that they don't see it curving from left to right but they watch a 70 ft high ship disappear 3 miles out.  Could you imagine that much curve in that short of distance?  This completely proves your dealing with morons (or brainwashing victims) that don't have simple logic skills.    Everyone reading this (millions of views) will all see this on display.  No matter how much they hoot and holler it's fairly obvious these guys have not a single clue and will ignore all evidence.  That's why it's important to keep questioning on the facts everyone knows concerning how our eyes work and how water works.   Keep exposing them. Keep them claiming they see the ship go over the horizon!  That one is simply classic.  The more they fight that one the more everyone sees them for what they are.  The more they blatantly lie and show intellectual dishonesty the more you and the movement wins.  
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October 11, 2018, 04:39:28 PM
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Engineers don't calculate for Earth's curve ever because it doesn't exist. Go ask a railroad engineer about it, ask him why he never makes allowances for Earth's curvature? I'm not the one living in a fantasy world.

Why don't engineers generally need to calculate for the curvature of the earth? Because the curvature is on such a vast scale that it is unnecessary to take it into account. It appears not to exist. If the earth were a mere 100 miles in diameter, they would have to take it into account.

Engineers calculate for flat and straight. They do not calculate for something like a horizon curving up.

Make up your mind. Either the engineering calculation that works is wrong, or flat-earth curving up is wrong. The two sciences don't mix.

Formulate a complete FE science that works, stop combing it with standard science, and go back to school.

Cool

What, did the liqueur store run out of Everclear? The claim is 8" per mile squared and you say a railroad engineer can just ignore that?

This is engineer talk that doesn't reflect true math. Also, it is a rule of thumb. Consider:
It seems to be the only math which many flat-Earthers are willing to consider accurate. The Earth, they say, supposedly curves away at a rate of eight inches times the distance in miles squared. Which is true. Kind of. But not really.

The figure, which they say comes from NASA, or "science," actually comes from a very different source. Flat-Earthers, no matter where they got it themselves, owe it to none other than Samuel Birley Rowbotham, author of Zetetic Astronomy. He got it from the Encyclopedia Brittanica, where it is cited under the heading "Leveling." You'll find his lengthy quote (I doubt that he got permission to use it, by the way) starting on page 8 of the 1865 edition of his book.

The problem is that this is in the context of civil engineering, not mathematics, and it's just a rule of thumb employed by plane surveyors to compensate for the drop in a target of the same height as the surveyor's transit. It builds up inaccuracy as the distance increases for two reasons, the first being that it is not exact, and the second being that it is not based on the formula for a circle. It actually plots out to be a parabola.

But, you can calculate it out yourself, easily, using trig or calculus. Or are you going to say that math is off, so that you can't use trig or calc in this?

However, if the drop is 8 inches per mile, this means less than 3 thousandths of an inch bend in a 15-foot railroad rail. You couldn't even notice this, so who who cares? Certainly not railroad engineers (or the conductors, for that matter Cheesy). Rails expand and contract way more than this with seasonal temperature changes.

But if you are using 8 inches squared, you are using 64 inches, or 8 times the, above, 3 thousandths of an inch. Then the amount would be barely over 2 hundredths of an inch. Again, this is less than climate change contractions and expansions, and less than a 15-foot rail bends because of anomalies in railroad track roadbed.

In other words, railroad engineers have to take into account way more for hills and valleys. So, why would they want to even consider the curvature of the earth, which is automatically figured into the way the metal bends, naturally, because of the size of the earth, and the tiny amount of drop in curvature?

Keep on digging yourself into a hole that you can't get out of.

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But he notices the huge tanker disappear behind the water curve 3 miles out.  HAHA

Can't make this shit up.
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October 11, 2018, 04:40:52 PM
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"And the name of the star is called Wormwood: and the third part of the waters became wormwood; and many men died of the waters, because they were made bitter." -- Revelation 8:11, KJV

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Certain commentators have held that this "great star" represents one of several important figures in political or ecclesiastical history,[4] while other Bible dictionaries and commentaries view the term as a reference to a celestial being. A Dictionary of The Holy Bible states, "the star called Wormwood seems to denote a mighty prince, or power of the air, the instrument, in its fall."[5]" -- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wormwood_(Bible)

"Rabbi Yitzchak Batzri, a Jerusalem-based Kabbalist, claimed the apocalyptic scenario was foretold in the Old Testament." -- http://www.express.co.uk/news/weird/1028552/Yellowstone-volcano-eruption-Bible-prophecy-end-of-the-world

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October 11, 2018, 04:46:24 PM
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Engineers don't calculate for Earth's curve ever because it doesn't exist. Go ask a railroad engineer about it, ask him why he never makes allowances for Earth's curvature? I'm not the one living in a fantasy world.

Why don't engineers generally need to calculate for the curvature of the earth? Because the curvature is on such a vast scale that it is unnecessary to take it into account. It appears not to exist. If the earth were a mere 100 miles in diameter, they would have to take it into account.

Engineers calculate for flat and straight. They do not calculate for something like a horizon curving up.

Make up your mind. Either the engineering calculation that works is wrong, or flat-earth curving up is wrong. The two sciences don't mix.

Formulate a complete FE science that works, stop combing it with standard science, and go back to school.

Cool

What, did the liqueur store run out of Everclear? The claim is 8" per mile squared and you say a railroad engineer can just ignore that?

This is engineer talk that doesn't reflect true math. Also, it is a rule of thumb. Consider:
It seems to be the only math which many flat-Earthers are willing to consider accurate. The Earth, they say, supposedly curves away at a rate of eight inches times the distance in miles squared. Which is true. Kind of. But not really.

The figure, which they say comes from NASA, or "science," actually comes from a very different source. Flat-Earthers, no matter where they got it themselves, owe it to none other than Samuel Birley Rowbotham, author of Zetetic Astronomy. He got it from the Encyclopedia Brittanica, where it is cited under the heading "Leveling." You'll find his lengthy quote (I doubt that he got permission to use it, by the way) starting on page 8 of the 1865 edition of his book.

The problem is that this is in the context of civil engineering, not mathematics, and it's just a rule of thumb employed by plane surveyors to compensate for the drop in a target of the same height as the surveyor's transit. It builds up inaccuracy as the distance increases for two reasons, the first being that it is not exact, and the second being that it is not based on the formula for a circle. It actually plots out to be a parabola.

But, you can calculate it out yourself, easily, using trig or calculus. Or are you going to say that math is off, so that you can't use trig or calc in this?

However, if the drop is 8 inches per mile, this means less than 3 thousandths of an inch bend in a 15-foot railroad rail. You couldn't even notice this, so who who cares? Certainly not railroad engineers (or the conductors, for that matter Cheesy). Rails expand and contract way more than this with seasonal temperature changes.

But if you are using 8 inches squared, you are using 64 inches, or 8 times the, above, 3 thousandths of an inch. Then the amount would be barely over 2 hundredths of an inch. Again, this is less than climate change contractions and expansions, and less than a 15-foot rail bends because of anomalies in railroad track roadbed.

In other words, railroad engineers have to take into account way more for hills and valleys. So, why would they want to even consider the curvature of the earth, which is automatically figured into the way the metal bends, naturally, because of the size of the earth, and the tiny amount of drop in curvature?

Keep on digging yourself into a hole that you can't get out of.

Cool

But he notices the huge tanker disappear behind the water curve 3 miles out.  HAHA

Can't make this shit up.

Right! Anomalies in all the things that the FE people say.     Cool
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October 11, 2018, 05:43:03 PM
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Engineers don't calculate for Earth's curve ever because it doesn't exist. Go ask a railroad engineer about it, ask him why he never makes allowances for Earth's curvature? I'm not the one living in a fantasy world.

Why don't engineers generally need to calculate for the curvature of the earth? Because the curvature is on such a vast scale that it is unnecessary to take it into account. It appears not to exist. If the earth were a mere 100 miles in diameter, they would have to take it into account.

Engineers calculate for flat and straight. They do not calculate for something like a horizon curving up.

Make up your mind. Either the engineering calculation that works is wrong, or flat-earth curving up is wrong. The two sciences don't mix.

Formulate a complete FE science that works, stop combing it with standard science, and go back to school.

Cool

What, did the liqueur store run out of Everclear? The claim is 8" per mile squared and you say a railroad engineer can just ignore that?

This is engineer talk that doesn't reflect true math. Also, it is a rule of thumb. Consider:
It seems to be the only math which many flat-Earthers are willing to consider accurate. The Earth, they say, supposedly curves away at a rate of eight inches times the distance in miles squared. Which is true. Kind of. But not really.

The figure, which they say comes from NASA, or "science," actually comes from a very different source. Flat-Earthers, no matter where they got it themselves, owe it to none other than Samuel Birley Rowbotham, author of Zetetic Astronomy. He got it from the Encyclopedia Brittanica, where it is cited under the heading "Leveling." You'll find his lengthy quote (I doubt that he got permission to use it, by the way) starting on page 8 of the 1865 edition of his book.

The problem is that this is in the context of civil engineering, not mathematics, and it's just a rule of thumb employed by plane surveyors to compensate for the drop in a target of the same height as the surveyor's transit. It builds up inaccuracy as the distance increases for two reasons, the first being that it is not exact, and the second being that it is not based on the formula for a circle. It actually plots out to be a parabola.

But, you can calculate it out yourself, easily, using trig or calculus. Or are you going to say that math is off, so that you can't use trig or calc in this?

However, if the drop is 8 inches per mile, this means less than 3 thousandths of an inch bend in a 15-foot railroad rail. You couldn't even notice this, so who who cares? Certainly not railroad engineers (or the conductors, for that matter Cheesy). Rails expand and contract way more than this with seasonal temperature changes.

But if you are using 8 inches squared, you are using 64 inches, or 8 times the, above, 3 thousandths of an inch. Then the amount would be barely over 2 hundredths of an inch. Again, this is less than climate change contractions and expansions, and less than a 15-foot rail bends because of anomalies in railroad track roadbed.

In other words, railroad engineers have to take into account way more for hills and valleys. So, why would they want to even consider the curvature of the earth, which is automatically figured into the way the metal bends, naturally, because of the size of the earth, and the tiny amount of drop in curvature?

Keep on digging yourself into a hole that you can't get out of.

Cool

But he notices the huge tanker disappear behind the water curve 3 miles out.  HAHA

Can't make this shit up.

Right! Anomalies in all the things that the FE people say.     Cool

Not so sure your going to trick anyone with that.  Your going back and forth between little curves we can't  see when it fits your story then we go to huge 70ft water curves 3 miles out when you need that.  You may trick a few dumb asses.  Keep it up.  Your doing nothing but helping Nobatman. 

Does the ship really go behind the giant water curve?  Show us your true colors.
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October 11, 2018, 05:46:26 PM
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There is all possible ways the magnets can be arranged. n-s-n-s  would also give perpendicular field lines.
Not hard to see the concentration of power.


Because of the turn there is a continues connect disconnect. The power of dc current.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zez2r1RPpWY

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Right! Anomalies in all the things that the FE people say.     Cool

Not so sure your going to trick anyone with that.  Your going back and forth between little curves we can't  see when it fits your story then we go to huge 70ft water curves 3 miles out when you need that.  You may trick a few dumb asses.  Keep it up.  Your doing nothing but helping Nobatman. 

Does the ship really go behind the giant water curve?  Show us your true colors.

All right! You said it. In the complex things you can't see the little curves. But you can see all kinds of things that make sense right in your back yard, like surveying, and the way that a surveyor's transit works.

So, why would you (whoever you are) believe all the flat earth science when you can't see the curves, and not believe standard science, which happens everyday with the surveyor and in building buildings, bridges, airplanes, cars, and everything else we live with in the modern world? FE perspective doesn't fit all this real and practical stuff. But standard science does, even though you don't see your curves.

If you look above in this thread, you will see that I have been asking notbatman to stop trying to combine the things of two different sciences, and to develop his FE science so that it fits the real world right around us... not some horizon world that uses perspective in ways that absolutely don't work with building big buildings and flying airplanes on a straight course.

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Right! Anomalies in all the things that the FE people say.     Cool

Not so sure your going to trick anyone with that.  Your going back and forth between little curves we can't  see when it fits your story then we go to huge 70ft water curves 3 miles out when you need that.  You may trick a few dumb asses.  Keep it up.  Your doing nothing but helping Nobatman. 

Does the ship really go behind the giant water curve?  Show us your true colors.

All right! You said it. In the complex things you can't see the little curves. But you can see all kinds of things that make sense right in your back yard, like surveying, and the way that a surveyor's transit works.

So, why would you (whoever you are) believe all the flat earth science when you can't see the curves, and not believe standard science, which happens everyday with the surveyor and in building buildings, bridges, airplanes, cars, and everything else we live with in the modern world? FE perspective doesn't fit all this real and practical stuff. But standard science does, even though you don't see your curves.

If you look above in this thread, you will see that I have been asking notbatman to stop trying to combine the things of two different sciences, and to develop his FE science so that it fits the real world right around us... not some horizon world that uses perspective in ways that absolutely don't work with building big buildings and flying airplanes on a straight course.

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It's a simple question so we can establish something between the 2 sides.  We need a starting point.  I really want to walk through this step by step.  You have been here 3 years so I would think you are game.  The quest is the truth.  Not winning an argument.

Does the ship really go behind the giant water curve 3 miles out?

Do you believe you actually witness the ship go behind a giant water curve off the coast (3 miles out)?  Or do you believe it is perspective which makes it disappear?  How can you bring the ship back into sight with binoculars if it went behind the water curve?
NASA employees, Bill Nye have both said we know the earth is curved because we can see the ship disappear behind the curve.  I call this clear bullshit.  If you believe that the ship really does go behind the curve 3 miles out there really is nothing left to talk about as I would consider you intellectually dishonest.

The other proof that is the 2nd most brought up is the shadows of 2 distant buildings (Eratosthenes).  Once we agree that we don't see ships disappear behind water curves at close distances when they don't disappear from left to right we can go on from there.  The question I will pose to you regarding this is why does the sextant tell us the sun is near (3k miles)?  What is your proof the sun is 93 million miles away.  Why have all through history the suns distance move further and further away according to the top scientists of the time.  The questions pertaining to the suns distance are important because a close sun will give the same results as Eratosthenes witnesses on a flat plane.

I'm not arguing the earth is flat as much as I'm saying it's not a sphere as I was told in school.  We need free and independent exploration rights (Antarctic) to solve this for sure.  For now we will have to use what we have to go on.  But what we go on must be provable, measurable and repeatable or else we are all pissing in the wind.



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And yet you believe that you live on a spinning ball, although we can not see, observe or measure any curvature at all. And that is moronic  Grin
No curvature equals no ball, comprende amigo?
3D, just make sure that you will not die once atheist, because living in the lake of fire for all eternity really isn't profitable. Make sure to invest in profitable future.
Are you a fucking moron or what? Of course it's been observed and measured. Do some real research.
I'd link some sites to show you but won't waste my time because you will just come up with some retarded rebuttal about nasa hoaxes or what have you.
Jeezus christ dude, fucking educate yourself and get off this ridiculous thread.
(or just keep posting moronic hilarious pics, IDFC)
Unless you are just obsessively trolling for past 3 years or whatever, (distinct possibility)
I feel sorry for you and your sheer ignorance.
Now go pray to your magic invisible sky fairy that I burn in imaginary hell...

....Hey btw, is hell shaped like a pancake too...a really hot one?.. like floating below the earth pancake?


Nice one Exemplaar.  You got this one triggered.  


It is better for you to be triggered than left alone dying in ignorance.

Enoch was the only man who saw the lake of fire. Here read it for yourself:

http://book-ofenoch.com/chapter-21/




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Not so sure your going to trick anyone with that.  Your going back and forth between little curves we can't  see when it fits your story then we go to huge 70ft water curves 3 miles out when you need that.  You may trick a few dumb asses.  Keep it up.  Your doing nothing but helping Nobatman.

Does the ship really go behind the giant water curve?  Show us your true colors.

You should know that badecker is a jesuit sellout.

Check this brilliant short documentary for a basic facts: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=olbyJDou4qQ


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It's a simple question so we can establish something between the 2 sides.  We need a starting point.  I really want to walk through this step by step.  You have been here 3 years so I would think you are game.  The quest is the truth.  Not winning an argument.

Does the ship really go behind the giant water curve 3 miles out?

Do you believe you actually witness the ship go behind a giant water curve off the coast (3 miles out)?  Or do you believe it is perspective which makes it disappear?  How can you bring the ship back into sight with binoculars if it went behind the water curve?
NASA employees, Bill Nye have both said we know the earth is curved because we can see the ship disappear behind the curve.  I call this clear bullshit.  If you believe that the ship really does go behind the curve 3 miles out there really is nothing left to talk about as I would consider you intellectually dishonest.


I can't tell if you are being silly, are attempting to be deceptive, or are just plain ignorant.

The answer to your yes/no question, "Does the ship really go behind the giant water curve 3 miles out?," as it stands, is not a simple yes/no. Here's why not. And it is easy.

The horizon is different distances away, depending on how high off the ground you are at the same spot on the beach.

If you are a 6-foot tall person standing on the beach, the horizon will be at a certain point.

If you are standing on the top of a 100-foot tall tower, exactly and directly above the point where you were standing on the beach, the horizon will be further away.

If you let the girls bury you in the beach sand, so your head sticks out of the sand, exactly between the spot where your feet were planted when you were standing on the beach, the horizon is much closer.

You don't have enough info in your question to make it possible to give a yes or a no. And you know this. You are simply being deceptive, or you are playing around. However, if you don't know this, you really need a room next to notbatman.

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