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January 08, 2019, 07:30:27 PM
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I was just using the list to highlight the fact that many users, including senior users and staff members, send merits to members who are then banned for a variety of reasons, and no one ever tries to seek retribution on the merit-sender.

Any one can make such mistakes and it is OK if he is just sending a couple of merits or he is a merit source and meriting on a daily basis, but here we are talking about sending all your sMerits to one post. You should, at least, take few minutes to check the posts history.

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January 09, 2019, 08:06:38 AM
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For the majority of those who consider Ranking important to themselves, ranking-up speed is pretty slow and the perspective is to take quite a long time to manage to move on to their next rank, especially for those in the mid-to-high ranks. I recently took a look at the ranking-pipeline, and summarized it here: re: Isn't this merit thing getting more monopolistic politics? (a more detailed vision can be obtained using the Merit Dashboard) -> Go to the "Ranking-up" pipe-line tab).

For example, under the Merit system, 24 people have managed to rank-up to Hero Member status, but there are currently:

-   1.137 Sr. Members that have the activity and lack merit to get to Hero
        11 have >= 80% of the require merits
        89 have 60..80% of the required merits
        1.037 have 40..60% of the required merits (that is, not much more than the airdropped amount at best).
-   12 that have the merits but lack the activity
-   5 that are nearly there
-   801 that lack both activity and merit.

Now obviously ranking-up is now not a freebie that comes with just posting, but that now requires a certain degree of decent content as a fellow companion. Depending on the board sections one posts in, the path to ranking-up can be more cumbersome (specially on local boards).

On my local board there are a few posters that create good enough content and I regularly merit them because of that content (not because a particular shine to them nor local board patriotism of the sort). I tend to merit them with a few merits on the posts that I see fit, but not with a large amount.
In the past I’ve seen some large amounts being awarded and having reputational issues due to that, so I normally stick to awarding lower amounts per-se. A sudden 15 or 20 merit award on a single post would look odd there, and the help I can manage to give them is by reading their posts and awarding a few merits to each one that I consider worthy of it. It may also stimulate to keep on posting good content, but over a fair share of posts.

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January 10, 2019, 06:46:20 AM
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The sMerit in my opinion was not meant to be a push mechanism to get people to rank up quicker, but rather a reward system to give acknowledgement to high quality individual posts. If you want to "push" someone, then I would suggest scrutinizing their post history and just giving sMerit for the posts that deserve the sMerit and not all the sMerit for one single post.

I have also seen some posters with a high quality post and I re-visited their post history to see if the post was a once off or if he/she posted several high quality posts like that before.

A single post with say 50 sMerits will draw negative attention from other members and will be frowned upon.  Roll Eyes

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January 10, 2019, 10:16:29 AM
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Merits is for everyone who really deserves it, ofcourse their post must be in relevant to the topic.Lets help each other because we're all started as a newbie. And I'm sure most of us deserves merit.Spread love guys, smerits is not your gold to hold forever.

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January 10, 2019, 10:43:17 AM
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Based on your theory, should only members with higher ranks or at least Full members with high activity be looked in, to see if they've got something informative and helpful to the forum? As almost 99% newbies are completely new to this concept and many of them don't even know the basics of Bitcoin, how can we expect such above-average posts from them? They can learn and say something in their words but most of them fail to make it look a well-said post.
..Then they don't "deserve" merit? I'm pretty sure the system was/is intended to work this way.

I agree though, for the average newbie, it's not going to be easy to rank up.
When placing myself in their shoes, i'm pretty sure i would've not received any/a lot of merits either for my first half year of posting here.

I never said that (bold part in your comment), but all I asked here was should above-average members (like Full member and above) should be watched more? I never said newbies don't deserve, but it'll take some time for them to come in the category of knowledgeable people who already know some bits about the technology, and even if not that, at least they are able to "speak" something in their own words instead of using Google translate to mess it up in jumbled words or just committing the copy-paste stupidity. If I feel I'm not seeing any such good/better/best posts by lower ranks, I spend my sMerits on high rank members who are active in spreading those merits to newbies and show their utter generosity. Hope even that's not wrong.

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January 10, 2019, 11:15:45 AM
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Why not just compound the merits on multiple posts which will be given in several days? Therefore you can still monitor and judge that person if he/she has been consistent in his post quality. With this technique you will also not over compensate him with a big amount of merits with just one post. You will also know if the member is really deserving to receive a considerable amount of merits from you.

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January 10, 2019, 12:47:37 PM
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Why not just compound the merits on multiple posts which will be given in several days? Therefore you can still monitor and judge that person if he/she has been consistent in his post quality. With this technique you will also not over compensate him with a big amount of merits with just one post. You will also know if the member is really deserving to receive a considerable amount of merits from you.

I beg to disagree with you on this, there are members who are really a good commenter and some aren't, but once in a while they could also posts a very good comment. So it is not right to compound the merits on muliple post. Even yourself cannot post a 100 % good comment.

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January 10, 2019, 01:21:19 PM
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Many meriters adjust their personal meriting standards when the post is created by one of the lower ranks, especially in the Beginners & Help board. Although the conceptual theory goes that you should merit the post based on the content and not the associated environment variables (username, rank, posting history, etc.), a content that postulates to being merited may be checked against variables of a kind, and ultimately tip the balance in one way or another.

The main drawback to meriting Legendries, is that they themselves currently do not receive a personal benefit by the received merits (i.e. they don’t need them to rank-up), whilst only half of what they receive may be resent as sMerits by them (due to halvings, as happens for every profile).

Nevertheless, earned merits are slowly becoming necessary for certain forum features (i.e. participating in some of the top campaigns, getting into DT1 as we saw yesterday (in an indirect manner), appreciation for the post’s content, etc. And who knows if another rank will eventually be created based on merit. Therefore, even if it is currently more efficiently used on non-Legendary ranks (meaning it contributes to rank), it should in no way be barred from mind at all.

Simplifying it all, just merit what seems fit.

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January 10, 2019, 02:58:41 PM
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Since you are giving it out to those who deserved it is not a bad move ,that's what every merit owners should do and we newbies should work for it instead of begging for merits
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The greed for merit is like plague since the existing...
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January 11, 2019, 01:18:28 AM
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This is good way to support all users in here, but it will be add more spam and maybe they'll PM you to give their Merit. I think you can give Merit Challenge to see experience every member in here in Crypto

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January 11, 2019, 02:42:32 AM
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I think this is quite simple, you don't need to think much, all opinions are for reference only, you don't need to worry about them. Give certificates of merit to those who make a positive contribution to the forum and ignore meaningless judgments!

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January 11, 2019, 07:01:48 AM
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This is good too support newbie like me  Grin but i think too much user will do spam and send you PM for need Merits
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January 11, 2019, 07:53:25 AM
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Guys, I've got something in my mind. Keeping merits in my account is useless for me as well as it always remind me of my responsibility that I am currently able to give them to someone who actually needs them.

Since you're kinda busy having no time to merit others,  you can choose some deserving members and award the merit to them.  Just like the 15merit you sent to the user meriting only newbies to rank up. Lets say you have 30smerit left,  you can choose 3 users or any number more than 3 that a post they have made deserve meriting and they need the merit too for ranking up. Before awarding them the merit you can do a little background check to verify they're truly contributing in the little way they can to the forum (this should be done to avoid regrets). Then after sending the merit you can send them a PM advising them to merit deserving members with the 5smerit they each got.  By so doing you have given the responsibility to others and your conscience will be free.

BTW I don't think 10merit for a post is much, suchmoon is sending 7+ daily.

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January 13, 2019, 04:19:08 AM
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This is good too support newbie like me  Grin but i think too much user will do spam and send you PM for need Merits

No, it's not just good for a specific category but I'm interested in helping who actually deserves the merits to rank up, but they didn't as none merited them. That's what I think, others have different mentality so things will differ for everyone. I don't say that merits are for ranking up purpose only, but it's one of the major reasons why everyone needs them.

I'm posting a user's profile address here with one more question:
http://fonstavka.com/index.php?action=profile;u=2268017;sa=showPosts (Posteralley is the name of the user).
Now, as most of you guys can check, their posts are really worth giving merits (at least few of them can be considered to be merited). What I don't understand is:
If such users go dormant and stop using their accounts, should they be merited at first place? Most users (like me of course) are lazy enough to check the complete profile and/or their posts history (I know that's not a good practice, which is why I give most of my merits to those who have better standards set for meriting others), and just merit them based on their "current" post that they watch. So, what about such merits given as we don't really know whether a user has come here just for the sake of exchanging information and will no more come back? I mean, should there be such standards set also that we need to check how active the user has been, before giving merits to them?

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January 13, 2019, 06:42:50 AM
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You can decide by yourself,but make sure that you didn't hand over any merits to the wrong hands.

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January 13, 2019, 06:44:00 AM
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I hope that http://thephotoimages.com/hug-day-images-in-hd/ will be very helpful on this valentine day for lovers in all the world

Just because this is not a self-moderated thread and you literally turned my mood off, here's a Valentine's gift for you:



Shut the fuck up, stupidobulously fantashitty person!  Angry



You can decide by yourself,but make sure that you didn't hand over any merits to the wrong hands.

I recently chose the right profile (based on my own views) and tried to get them rank up. Those, whom I think (obviously based on some standards and complete checks) deserve my sMerits and deserve a better rank, will definitely get them from me. Thanks for all your support.

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